How to Fix Leaking Lippert Level Up Hydraulic Landing Gear UPDATED

How to Fix Leaking Lippert Level Up Hydraulic Landing Gear

Topic: front jacks on Lippert Level Up coming down while driving

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Posted Past: tvfrfireman on 02/12/thirteen 10:52am Our new 2013 fifthwheel has the Level Upward Half dozen Point system and we have been struggling with this for over a calendar month. Lippert and DRV tell usa at that place is a certified dealership that tin prepare it in Quartzsite but the problem is getting at that place. They came down on the expressway one time and the problem is getting worse. A dealership in Mesa put some Fifty shapped brackets and used bailing wire that got the states back to our campground. Upon leaving the campground, the doubled wire snapped from the pressure. I and then used nylon string and it failed as we arrived in Phoenix. The factory was no help and told me to phone call a mobile repair man only the warrenty doesn't embrace firm calls. We can't notice a certified repair guy in all of Phoenix. My plan to become the rig to Quartzsite is to get some strapping and large radiator clamps. Cut two pieces of straping for each jack and tie knots on each stop. Then, criss cantankerous the lesser of the jack and pull the straps up around the round outside metal that houses the rams and tighten up the clench just below the knots. Any ideas out there?

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Posted By: Mandalay Parr on 02/12/13 12:05pm Can you lot pull the fuse for the hydraulic pump motor?

That will cease them from coming down under pressure.

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Posted By: larry barnhart on 02/12/13 12:34pm Somwtimes on MH'due south the slides can go out driving because the fluid is low. That is not a fun problem for you.
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Posted By: CA Traveler on 02/12/13 12:40pm

Mandalay Parr wrote:

Can you pull the fuse for the hydraulic pump motor?

That will cease them from coming down under pressure.

Or cut/disconnect the 12V power at the pump.

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Posted By: CA Traveler on 02/12/thirteen 12:46pm And then using garage door opener hanging brackets securely bolt the jacks in the upwardly position.

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Posted Past: tvfrfireman on 02/12/13 01:12pm

Mandalay Parr wrote:

Tin can you lot pull the fuse for the hydraulic pump motor?

That will stop them from coming down under pressure.

I am unsure only the pump is off when nosotros are traveling. I think information technology is residual force per unit area. We accept disc brakes that are hydraulic operated I think and am not sure if they share the same motor. I am not a mechanic and can't become assistance from Lippert. I am unaware of where to use the garage door subclass to hold the legs up. I would capeesh any advice only do need instructions on your ideas. Thanks then much for your replies. David

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Posted Past: CA Traveler on 02/12/13 01:27pm The brakes are on a different system.

You should exist able to apply the jack mounting bolts to run 2 vertical brackets. Then connect a horizontal piece under the jack with bolts. Garage door opener brackets take a lot of holes which helps and they should exist a lot stronger than the wire.

The pump should be off while traveling but with no power you would know for sure. Leaking valve could be another crusade.

AFWIW - Q may be the closest location but have your eyes open equally to their quality. A certified tech may/may not really know the product.

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Posted Past: tvfrfireman on 02/12/13 02:55pm

CA Traveler wrote:

The brakes are on a different organisation.

You should be able to utilise the jack mounting bolts to run ii vertical brackets. And so connect a horizontal piece under the jack with bolts. Garage door opener brackets accept a lot of holes which helps and they should be a lot stronger than the wire.

The pump should exist off while traveling but with no power you lot would know for sure. Leaking valve could exist another crusade.

AFWIW - Q may be the closest location but have your eyes open up equally to their quality. A certified tech may/may not really know the production.

I don't have much selection on the ourfit who repairs it. Lippert told united states to go at that place. With fuel about four bucks a gallon nosotros just tin can't drive beyond the country searching. DRV has been less than helpful. I sent them an email nearly how to concur the legs up and they don't even answer back. I can't see whatever jack mounting bolts but they could exist covered in some sort of sealer that is gobbed on everything.

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Posted By: CA Traveler on 02/12/xiii 03:26pm Post some pictures and that may generate some ideas.

Another possibility might exist to remove the jacks and cap the hydraulic lines??? I'd want Lipperts input on that because the other jacks.

As well wondering if each jack has 1 or 2 hydraulic lines?

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Posted Past: kab449 on 02/12/13 04:44pm As some other affiche mentioned bank check the reservoir to see if it is depression. If air entered the system it volition cause your problem. If it is low put transmission fluid in information technology and operate the jacks a few times to purge the air. With all jacks retracted the fluid in the reservoir should exist slightly below the fill on the reservoir. Hope this helps.

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Posted Past: dougrainer on 02/12/13 05:00pm i. Lippert jacks systems are ability up and power down and accept static force per unit area on the jacks ALL THE TIME, regardless if the pump will run. That means the OP has a VALVE at the pump that is leaking internally and causing the force per unit area to extend the jack. Practise the jacks ONLY extend while in transit? IF you exit the trailer connected to the truck and practice NOT extend the jacks, will they extend overnight? This is the service/owners transmission for your system. LOOK below FIG 8 at those "Blocking Valves". I believe y'all either have defective valves or they are Not gear up correctly with the Allen wrench. Doug

http://www.lci1.com/images/Flyers/Owners_Manuals/Leveling/om-level-up-automatic-leveling.pdf

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Posted Past: dougrainer on 02/12/13 05:01pm

dougrainer wrote:

1. Lippert jacks systems are power up and power down and have static pressure on the jacks ALL THE TIME, regardless if the pump will run. That means the OP has a VALVE at the pump that is leaking internally and causing the pressure to extend the jack. Practise the jacks ONLY extend while in transit? IF you leave the trailer connected to the truck and do NOT extend the jacks, will they extend overnight? This is the service/owners manual for your system. LOOK below FIG 8 at those "Blocking Valves". I believe you either take defective valves or they are NOT prepare correctly with the Allen wrench. Doug

http://world wide web.lci1.com/images/Flyers/Owners_Manuals/Leveling/om-level-up-automatic-leveling.pdf

http://www.lci1.com/images/Flyers/Owners........eling/om-level-up-automatic-leveling.pdf

* This post was edited 02/13/13 08:00am past dougrainer *

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Posted Past: ronniedean1234 on 02/12/13 09:13pm I have heard of this problem before, what is happening is the selonoid valve for the front end landing gear is non belongings and needs to exist replaced. There is a manifold virtually the hydraulic pump with 3 electric solinoid valves and the 1 at the front is usually for the forepart jacks. Y'all tin heighten the landing gear up,put a cake nether them and so they practise not lower, either disconnect the supply line to the jacks or the return line and just plug it off with a beveled plumbing fixtures you can buy at an auto parts shop. Hope this helps........

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Posted By: tvfrfireman on 02/13/13 08:45am

dougrainer wrote:

1. Lippert jacks systems are ability up and power down and take static pressure level on the jacks ALL THE TIME, regardless if the pump volition run. That means the OP has a VALVE at the pump that is leaking internally and causing the pressure to extend the jack. DO the jacks ONLY extend while in transit? IF you leave the trailer continued to the truck and do Not extend the jacks, will they extend overnight? This is the service/owners manual for your organization. Look below FIG 8 at those "Blocking Valves". I believe yous either have defective valves or they are Non ready correctly with the Allen wrench. Doug

http://world wide web.lci1.com/images/Flyers/Owners_Manuals/Leveling/om-level-up-automatic-leveling.pdf

The jacks come up down when parked or in transit. When nosotros are set up at the rv park, we take to cake the trailer up as the front jacks won't hold. We are trying to become to a certified dealer lippert told united states to go to in Quartzsite. The pressure of the jacks coming down is getting stronger and the bailing wire the dealer used no longer holds the jacks up. No help on this problem from the factory or lippert. I am not a mechanic and an looking simply for an idea to keep the jacks from dragging while nosotros bulldoze.

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Posted Past: CA Traveler on 02/13/13 08:55am Generally speaking this is like my LCI slide pump.

OP If you do anything to the jacks it could void the warranty.

With that in mind: Check the valve spiral with the allen wrench per Doug.

Observe a mode to secure them up, with a pic you might get some ideas, this might exist your all-time choice. How well-nigh 2 2x4s on the roof and under the jacks with strong vertical bracing?

Heighten them and secure with supports, and so remove the lines and plug the jacks. It appears to be a different circuit from the other jacks so they shouldn't be afflicted. All the same this could introduce air and might not work.

Accept someone replace the valve at your location and probably kiss the warranty goodby.

See if the tech has a solution.

How near some kind of temporary second manual pump only to get you to the repair facility?

While there are apparent justified problems with some LCI pumps my experience was positive. Oil leaked into the motor (bad design) and it would not work - with a slide out. There transmission procedure didn't piece of work considering they replaced the hex setup with a nut that unscrewed with the drill - bad design. Eventually I was able to jam the nut and become the slide in.

With one calendar month out of warranty they after a long conservation about their design they sent me a redesigned replacement pump (no accuse) which I installed. Meliorate designed and less motor noise then I take no complaints about LCI after one twelvemonth with the new pump.

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Posted Past: CA Traveler on 02/thirteen/13 09:10am OP, I certainly appreciate your dilemma and felt the same until I got the slide in and could travel.

But I can empathize their position. If they were to offer any advice other than mill service then there could be warranty and liability issues.

If nothing works and then it may be necessary to tow information technology on a flat bed truck.

There is a facility in Tucson on their website. Have you lot chosen them?

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Posted Past: dougrainer on 02/13/13 09:11am Lippert states they take 2 area Dealers that are Service centers

Lazy Days Tucson 520 741 2219

RV Lifestyle Quartzite 928 927 8222

LCI confirms your trouble is the Blocking valves. Either defective or they are NOT closed as the LIP Sheet link I sent yous shows. Doug

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Posted By: GaPete on 02/thirteen/13 09:18am I would Google "Hydraulic Repair" or "Service" nearby and take information technology to them. I had my RV Tech work on my organization and Lippert reimbursed me. They should practise the same for you just if they don't, safety and peace of mind would be worth the expense to me.

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Posted By: tvfrfireman on 02/xiii/13 09:33pm

CA Traveler wrote:

OP, I certainly appreciate your dilemma and felt the aforementioned until I got the slide in and could travel.

But I can sympathize their position. If they were to offer any communication other than factory service then in that location could exist warranty and liability issues.

If nix works then it may be necessary to tow information technology on a apartment bed truck.

In that location is a facility in Tucson on their website. Take you chosen them?

We were given the Quartzsite dealership by Lippert. Nosotros are heading to the Havasu surface area so this volition work for usa. I am just trying to get their safely. I am going to test bulldoze my c clamp and strapping method and see if information technology works tomorrow. I bought some wild green sheet metallic tape to put on the pads so information technology is easier to monitor in the rear view mirror.

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Posted Past: CurtNLA on 02/xiii/13 xi:04pm It has been a long time since I posted basically the same problem. Guess what, I yet have the problem. My front jacks will drop while hooked up for travel, but will concur the camper upwards while parked. I take spent considerable money to have it repaired, but none of it has worked. They replaced the solenoid valve - information technology didn't solve the trouble. Several calls to Lippert resulted in instructions to determine leak down of the cylinders. Apparently, in that location is one or both of the cylinders on mine that leak downwards and they will tend to equalize when no force per unit area is applied. Information technology can be establish at their site too every bit a wealth of additional information here. I informed the and so called repairmen of the procedure recommended by Lippert and was rebuffed. I thought information technology was fixed after ane trip to the shop, so I departed Newton, AL and drove to Denton, TX. At each stop, I would have to run the jacks back upwardly. While crossing the TX-LA state line coming dorsum from TX, I was alerted by a passing commuter that I had a problem with my jacks. I immediately pulled over just to find that both jacks were dragging the pavement (manifestly sending sparks flying). I ran the jacks back upward and proceeded to a campground where I spent an extra day drilling a hole through each leg and putting a bolt through. That stopped them from dropping, but is a hurting when I put upwardly for the nighttime and leave the adjacent forenoon. Judge what. They still aren't fixed.

FWIW - Brusque

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Posted Past: dougrainer on 02/14/xiii 05:56am

CurtNLA wrote:

It has been a long fourth dimension since I posted basically the same problem. Guess what, I nonetheless accept the trouble. My forepart jacks will drop while hooked upwards for travel, only will hold the camper up while parked. I have spent considerable money to take it repaired, merely none of information technology has worked. They replaced the solenoid valve - it didn't solve the problem. Several calls to Lippert resulted in instructions to determine leak down of the cylinders. Apparently, there is one or both of the cylinders on mine that leak down and they will tend to equalize when no pressure is applied. It can be found at their site as well equally a wealth of additional information here. I informed the so called repairmen of the process recommended past Lippert and was rebuffed. I thought it was fixed afterwards one trip to the shop, so I departed Newton, AL and drove to Denton, TX. At each stop, I would accept to run the jacks back upwards. While crossing the TX-LA land line coming back from TX, I was alerted by a passing commuter that I had a problem with my jacks. I immediately pulled over just to find that both jacks were dragging the pavement (plain sending sparks flying). I ran the jacks back up and proceeded to a campground where I spent an extra day drilling a pigsty through each leg and putting a commodities through. That stopped them from dropping, but is a pain when I put up for the night and leave the next morning time. Approximate what. They yet aren't fixed.

FWIW - Curt

For both your and the OP's problem-----Go to your Pump/Valves compartment. Discover the Greyness wire going to a hydraulic solenoid. THAT solenoid is the solenoid that controls fluid to the FRONT landing jacks. THAT solenoid is the problem. It needs replaced. I called information technology a
Blocking Valve in a previous mail service, THAT was wrong. This solenoid is not really chosen a Blocking valve. It is the gateway IN & OUT for all fluid to the front Landing Leg cylinders. IF information technology is defective then fluid will seep back and forth. There are 4 solenoids----three Blocking Valves and the fourth is this solenoid. Doug

Got a Crossroads 5th in that has this system. The Blocking Valve solenoid is mounted on the RF Landing gear at the elevation. This is where the Gray wire goes. That valve has the Allen wrench screw to release and reset. THIS Solenoid is your problem. Have someone bank check the Allen screw to make sure it is closed.

* This postal service was edited 02/14/13 01:09pm by dougrainer *

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